Comments on: My Forlorn Love Letter to Agile/2009/06/30/my-forlorn-love-letter-to-agile/Making Lives More WonderfulWed, 31 Jul 2013 14:37:07 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: John Jolley/2009/06/30/my-forlorn-love-letter-to-agile/#comment-7448Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:37:07 +0000/?p=3152#comment-7448Awesome! I too have fallen out with “agile”, whatever that means these days with prescriptive rules, primadona’s and all…

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By: davidrossdegroot/2009/06/30/my-forlorn-love-letter-to-agile/#comment-7445Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:06:30 +0000/?p=3152#comment-7445Lol. If agile is the original manifesto, I think you may still be in love?

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By: fjfish/2009/06/30/my-forlorn-love-letter-to-agile/#comment-7444Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:53:38 +0000/?p=3152#comment-7444For some reason your tone reminds me of the speech in “V for Vendetta”, where V addresses Justice and then blows up the Old Bailey 😉

I think you could easily replace the now-debased word agile with lean and not change a thing. It comes back to people wanting things in a box, wanting to have an algorithm for something that’s soft and not always perfect. People are not machines, and unfortunately picking up the outer forms of agile (as in the 3 things for scrum, for example) just means you’re dancing around a handbag with the word agile written on it. Most software management came out of the mass of coders, and think that you can just program everybody and it will be fine.

Picking it up and understanding why you do those things, which are all about communicating early and often, that really means an expert’s view. This is the problem: the manifesto was written by people with decades of experience between them, it was picked up by expensive consultancies to allow them to dress in more radical clothes while selling the same old snake oil built around billing for time instead of struggling for results.

The other problem is the fundamental disconnect between the gantt-charters and the agilistas – but they try and coexist. It doesn’t work, there’s a break right at the bottom of the two ways of thinking and the gantt-charters generally hold the budgets, so of course agile fails – because what’s being promulgated isn’t agile, but a poor shadow that has been compromised to fit in with big-corp guaranteed failure.

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By: bulldozer00/2009/06/30/my-forlorn-love-letter-to-agile/#comment-7443Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:24:43 +0000/?p=3152#comment-7443Great post Bob!

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